Retold by Astracia from public sources
Starter Story paid enough for Pat Walls to quit engineering, at $5K a month on Indie Hackers
Pat Walls told Indie Hackers in August 2019 that he bootstrapped Starter Story to $5K a month and 80K monthly visitors, then left his full-time engineering job, a profitability story distinct from Pigeon's later $1K MRR.
- Monthly revenue
- $5,000 Indie Hackers post, 20 August 2019 · founder-reported
- Monthly visitors
- 80,000 Indie Hackers post, 20 August 2019 · founder-reported
- Monthly revenue
- $1,700 8 October 2018 recap · founder-reported
- Monthly revenue
- $4,100 April 2019 update on October 2018 recap · founder-reported
- Reading time
- 6 min
The story
On 20 August 2019, Pat Walls posted on Indie Hackers: he had built his side project StarterStory to profitability and quit his full-time engineering job. He described Starter Story as a site like Indie Hackers that helps people start businesses. With little experience in blogging or starting a company, he wrote, he bootstrapped it on nights and weekends to then $5K a month and 80K monthly visitors. After about a year on the project he left the job. He also mentioned 24hrstartup, a streamed online hackathon, a YouTube channel, and Pigeon, a Gmail CRM. Pigeon is named as current parallel work. It is not the $1K MRR product story stored under a different slug. This row stays on Starter Story's path to a quit-your-job snapshot.
The $5K is a monthly total he attached to Starter Story in that introduction, not a SaaS MRR waterfall. When asked how the money arrived, he broke it into sponsors 80 percent, premium memberships 10 percent, and affiliate revenue 10 percent. He preferred a long-term sponsor, naming Klaviyo, on the newsletter and site for six to twelve months. He would rather sign a one-year contract for $1,000 than a one-month contract for $200, because locking sponsors was slow and an unsponsored gap was lost money. Those $1,000 and $200 figures are contract-shape examples in the comment, not a restatement of the $5K run-rate. Ad networks and courses appear as options he listed, not as his mix.
He was open about wanting to quit the project. On 8 March 2018, a month after launch, he emailed that Starter Story was on autopilot, outlets exhausted, new ideas calling. A monthly update from the same stretch said he felt unmotivated and was looking at starting another business. He started other ideas, he wrote, but never stopped posting interviews, which is what pulled him out. That is a consistency claim, not a traffic chart. It also dates launch-ish life to early 2018, which matters when the Indie Hackers intro says about a year before quitting. A later personal recap will give October 2018 as the job-exit month. Keep the forum's about a year and the recap's calendar as two tellings.
By the August 2019 AMA he was scaling content, not celebrating a SaaS dashboard. That month they were on track for 60 pieces, a record, with a small outsourced team on publishing so he could try new ideas. He had about 500 tools in structured data he wanted to expose. The long vision was a business media company on the scale of Forbes or Indie Hackers, a ten-to-twenty-year sentence, not a month's revenue. Interviews, he estimated without exact numbers, were about 80 percent outbound and 20 percent inbound. He had sent cold emails to over 6,000 businesses, scraping directories, using an email-finder API, then outsourcing research. Treat 6,000 as a founder count of outreach, not as published interviews.
Starter Story ran on Rails. He used Pigeon as the main CMS because interview work lived in email. That sentence is why Pigeon appears here at all: as an internal tool for a content site, not as the public $1K MRR Gmail product milestone. Audience, besides Reddit and Hacker News, came from a newsletter, Google, direct, Twitter, Indie Hackers, Facebook, Instagram, Quora, and Pinterest. He had fewer than 100 Twitter followers when he started. He told people not to live in analytics and to control quality and output. Haters on Reddit taught him, he said, to stop arguing with trolls.
An 8 October 2018 blog post, How I Published 142 Blog Posts in 12 Months, is an earlier money snapshot and must not be averaged into $5K. First Starter Story post: 15 October 2017. Twelve months later: 142 pieces, 109 interviews, 33 other posts, and Starter Story monetized at about $1.7K in monthly revenue, with an April 2019 update on the same page to $4.1K a month. He had quit the full-time job two weeks before that October recap. He guessed about 15 hours a week across the year, nights and weekends. First week of the site: 23 visitors. He did not write the interviews himself; he edited founders. Phone interviews did not scale. Written templates, Hunter.io, Streak, Boomerang, and a custom Rails CMS did.
The October recap also states a 10 percent close on cold email in that era: over 100 interviews published, over 1,000 emails sent. He made revenue numbers required before a Product Hunt launch and deleted some older interviews that would not comply. Average interview length, in his math, was 2,464 words, with a 2,000-word quality bar. He wanted three posts a week, then closer to seven, with dreams of ten and twenty. Those operating details explain how a side project could show $1.7K, then $4.1K, then, on Indie Hackers the next August, $5K and 80K monthly visitors. They are still three dated founder prints. They are not $100K a month, a figure that appears on some third-party cards and not in these two sources.
Work-life comments on Indie Hackers stay qualitative. After quitting he described free time, runs at midday, travel, and also more stress, a sense it could fall apart, harder rejection. He had never done consulting; he had always had a job. That is the profitability-and-quit story: salary replaced by a media mix that was already paying, plus fear. It is not a claim that $5K equals engineering wages, and he does not publish the old salary here. Do not import Wall Street folklore from pages this draft did not fetch.
Pigeon returns in the 142-post piece as a product he decided to build for other interview publishers, and as an update link. Other catalog rows cover Pigeon reaching $1K MRR the hard way. Mixing that SaaS climb into this AMA would duplicate a founder and scramble two businesses. If a sentence names both products, label Starter Story as the $5K-and-quit object and Pigeon as a side or later software bet. The Indie Hackers title is explicit: side project StarterStory, profitability, quit engineering.
Independently verified: false. Sponsor mix, visitor counts, and monthly dollars are what Walls wrote. The editorial job is date-stamping: ~$1.7K in October 2018, $4.1K in the April 2019 note on that post, $5K and 80K visitors in August 2019. Quit timing is two weeks before 8 October 2018 in the recap, and about a year after starting in the AMA. Interviews and emails are his outreach math. None of that is Pigeon's $1K MRR, and none of it is a $100K-a-month headline from a page this file did not use.
This story is based on the founder’s own account.
Read the original source ↗Sources
- Pat Walls, Indie Hackers AMA, 20 August 2019 founder’s original post
- Pat Walls, How I Published 142 Blog Posts in 12 Months, 8 October 2018 founder’s original post
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