Retold by Astracia from public sources
Pieter Levels turned a city spreadsheet into Nomad List, not a $2M line on these pages
Pieter Levels says Nomad List grew from a crowdsourced Google spreadsheet into a membership site; on his founder page he put later revenue at about $20k–$40k a month, not $2 million a year.
- Monthly revenue range low
- $20,000 7 January 2017 founder page, after five years · founder-reported
- Monthly revenue range high
- $40,000 7 January 2017 founder page · founder-reported
- Approximate annual revenue
- $300,000 7 January 2017 founder page · founder-reported
- Launch email list
- 2,500 16 August 2014 post · founder-reported
- Reading time
- 6 min
The story
On 7 January 2017, Pieter Levels published a short founder page for Nomad List. He called himself Nomad List founder and indie maker. The site, he wrote, helped traveling remote workers find places by internet speed, cost of living, weather, safety, and thousands of other data points, and it was also a paid membership for meeting nomads on the ground. He started it in 2014 as part of a goal to launch twelve startups in twelve months. It was about the seventh startup he tried and the most successful. He launched it on Product Hunt and it took off like nothing he had made before. This record is that origin: a crowdsourced spreadsheet turned into a website, not a Photo AI essay.
The 16 August 2014 launch post fills in the problem he was trying to test. While traveling and working from different places, he met freelancers, remote employees, and founders who needed a city index. Chiang Mai already had a scene. Medellín and Ubud circulated as rumors. He knew he could not collect fifty indicators for fifty cities himself. He started as basic as possible to test demand first. The product, at that stage, was a list of cities that might work for people who lived on a laptop and a budget.
Instead of building a site first, he made a public Google spreadsheet. On 24 June 2014 he tweeted a request to help build the definitive list of locations for digital nomads and remote workers. He was stunned by the response. People filled in data and added columns he had not planned: safety, coffee-shop density, LGBTQ-friendliness. Twitter went, in his phrase, crazy about just a spreadsheet list, which answered the hypothesis that interest existed. Some proprietary Numbeo data appeared; he deleted it and kept the sheet crowdsourced and public. The minimum viable product was a document, not a leaderboard.
He then built a site. Names on the table were RemoteList or Nomad List. BetaList's founder Marc said Nomad List would be better to brand, so that was the name. He took design cues from Product Hunt's clean look. Cost of living became NomadCost, modeled on his own habits: a private hostel room or cheap hotel, eating out three times a day because he had no kitchen, drinks with meals, going out maybe once a week. He scored cities like a leaderboard, weighting cost of living heaviest, with a cutoff around 2,000 euros a month after which the score went negative, then temperature because most nomads wanted warmth. He is not a data scientist, he wrote; he tweaked weights until the board felt right.
Launch was an accident. About a month after the spreadsheet tweet, on 29 July, he rebooted a Linode server, uploaded a local nginx configuration by mistake, and the site went live. He did not know until tweets arrived. The same day, Tech in Asia ran a feature. Emiel Janson submitted the site to Product Hunt without him knowing. He had planned a dedicated launch a few days later and decided to run with the accident. He came back from partying in Manila to find Nomad List number one on Product Hunt, later the fifth most-voted Product Hunt ever in his telling. He submitted it to Hacker News and hit number one there too. He estimated about 50,000 unique visitors from Hacker News and about 12,000 from Product Hunt.
Press followed. He named Forbes, Business Insider, Inc., The Next Web, and Lifehacker, plus shares from Tim Ferriss, Joel Gascoigne, Matt Mullenweg, and oDesk. He submitted only to The Next Web; the rest, he said, happened organically. After two weeks he was seeing about 3,000 unique visitors and 5,000 page views a day with little drop-off. In the first twenty-four hours Matt from Automattic emailed about hiring remote workers. A sponsorship paid per view and, Levels wrote, made the project profitable from day one. He collected about 2,500 emails in two weeks, roughly 5 percent of visitors, after putting the box up on the second day. He emailed 2,000 people and got over 400 survey answers. NomadGuides at $10 or $25 were the most requested paid idea then. He had not yet built the later Slack-then-site membership.
The 2017 founder page is the later money line this story can hold. After five years he launched Nomad List 5.0. It was used by millions of people every month, he wrote, and revenue ranged from $20,000 to $40,000 a month, or about $300,000 a year, with thousands of paying members. Slack had become a small part of membership; the site had trip logging, climate-based place finding, and even nomad dating. Catalog cards that title this story as a spreadsheet to $2 million-plus per year are using a directory headline. On the two pages fetched for this record, he did not state $2 million a year for Nomad List. This essay does not import that figure from a slug, a card, or another product.
The same person later shipped Photo AI and other products. A different catalog slug, pieter-levels-photo-ai-150k-month, points at a different first URL and a different revenue window. Those Photo AI monthly figures are not copied here. Nomad List's published origin is a Google Sheet, an accidental nginx launch, Product Hunt and Hacker News, an Automattic sponsorship, and a membership that, in 2017, he put in a $20,000 to $40,000 monthly band. Mixing a later AI photo-studio claim into a 2014 spreadsheet story would be a founder-collision error, not a synthesis. Two slugs can share a founder and still require two sets of sources.
He also warned that being number one on big tech sites is not the same as a business: you still need a way to funnel traffic toward a goal. In 2014 he was still asking people to join him because he thought he could not keep working on the idea alone. The later public image is a solo maker; the 2014 post is a person looking for help. Both can be true in sequence. The 2017 page still describes a paid community that started on Slack and then moved more of the product onto the site.
Read together, Levels's own Nomad List posts describe a demand test that preceded the product, an accidental go-live, and a 2017 revenue band he actually wrote down. Keep the catalog's $2 million-plus year off this page unless a fetched source states it; these two do not. Keep Photo AI's later monthly claim on its own slug. He published a spreadsheet date, launch traffic estimates, 2,500 emails, and about $300,000 a year. Those are the figures this record keeps.
This story is based on the founder’s own account.
Read the original source ↗Sources
- Pieter Levels, Nomad List Founder, 7 January 2017 founder’s original post
- Pieter Levels, How I got my startup to #1 on Product Hunt and Hacker News, 16 August 2014 founder’s original post
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